Balance & Beyond Podcast

Discover how one spontaneous decision can transform a career as we welcome Claire, founder of the Northern School of Kinesiology, to Balance and Beyond.

Claire takes us through her incredible journey, from working in the airline industry to establishing herself as an expert in kinesiology. We explore her transition from nutrition and naturopathy to a fulfilling 14-year career in energy work, guided by nothing more than her intuition and passion.

Reconnect with your body's intuitive signals in our discussion on the interoceptive system and its vital role in emotional regulation and basic bodily functions. Claire and I delve into the societal pressures that often cause us to ignore these cues, particularly among women, leading to confusion and poor life choices. This conversation underscores the intelligence of our bodies and the importance of listening to them for healthier, more informed decision-making.

Finally, we explore the profound connection between mental and emotional states and physical health. Claire shares compelling stories about how addressing unresolved emotional traumas can lead to significant physical improvements. We also touch on the power of authenticity in fostering genuine human connections and personal growth. Embrace your unique quirks and imperfections as we highlight the interconnectedness of life and the importance of an open, curious mindset in our journey of personal and spiritual development.

To learn more about Claire visit The Northern School of Kinesiology. Claire runs regular workshops in Melbourne and has a range of courses and programs for those looking to enhance their mastery of energetics through kinesiology.

https://northernschool.com.au/

To book a session with Claire, visit www.kineffects.com.au

Find Claire on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/NSKKinesiology and  https://www.facebook.com/Kineffects, and on Instagram at www.instagram.com/ClaireV.Kinesiology

Episode Transcript

INTRO: Welcome to Balance and Beyond, the podcast for ambitious women who refuse to accept burnout as the price of success. Here, we’re committed to empowering you with the tools and strategies you need to achieve true balance, where your career, relationships and health all thrive, and where you have the power to define success on your own terms. I honour the space you’ve created for yourself today, so take a breath, and let's dive right in…

Jo Host

Welcome to Balance and Beyond. I have a very special guest joining me today, and this is “take seven” of our attempts to record. So, a beautiful example of “done is better than perfect.” We found a way to make the tech work. Welcome to the wonderful Claire! Lovely to have you here.

Claire Guest

Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. 

Jo Host

So, Claire is a woman of many talents. I came across Claire as a kinesiologist who has an amazing skill set for tapping into energy, and I've brought Claire on the podcast because, for me, she has a wonderful insight skill. 

Not only is she one of us, as I just told her before, and you'll hear a bit more about her in a minute, but she's got some really interesting perspectives on the career changes that she's made, how she juggles life, and also how she's opened up different modalities, and different levels of intuition, which is something that many people in our world are interested in. So, Claire, why don't you kick us off by introducing yourself and telling us a little bit about you? 

Claire Guest

I've studied kinesiology now for the last 14 years. I’ve been on this wonderful journey and I went from a student, to practitioner, to teacher, to now kinesiology school owner, being the owner and founder of the Northern School of Kinesiology. So, clearly, I'm dedicated, and very passionate towards something I love. 

But, prior to that, believe it or not, I actually started my health journey in the nutrition industry. I was always curious about food, and wanted to learn more. So, I started studying nutrition by correspondence. But I found it a bit bland, or it missed some things. 

And then I went into naturopathy. I found myself sitting, teaching myself bio and chemistry, thinking “God, this is a bit boring.” But, working through it all the same. But, I also felt that there were key components missing. And I actually met someone who was studying kinesiology, or sports kinesiology at the time, to be precise. And she made it sound absolutely wonderful, to the point where I went, “You know what?” “Stuff it all.” “I'll just do it.” “Find an information evening, go to one.” 

And this is the funniest thing. I've never had a kinesiology session in my life, but I signed up on the spot for the course. I know. It always makes me laugh, and people go, “How did you do that?” I go, “It just felt right.” “I was there.” “I'm listening to it.” I watched the live demonstration, and was blown away. I signed up, and never looked back. And here I am, 14 years later. 

Jo Host

Yeah, and then before that you obviously also had a I guess you'd call it a corporate career, but you had something different. You weren't working in an office. You were a little higher than that, weren't you? No, it was great. 

Claire Guest

It was great! Yeah, believe it or not, I actually always had a passion for sports, arts, and health as a kid. And so, originally, I went in to do interior design and visual merchandising. Straight out of school, I went straight to uni and I didn't do what they call, as you know, the gap year, or the backpacking overseas. 

And I found myself one day going, “I want to travel the world, and I don't really want to have to struggle, or pay for it, or be in hostels. And so, at the time, this is when Virgin first came to Australia. And, at the time, I thought, “You know what?” “Stuff it, I'll apply for a job at the airlines.” Just as a joke, see if I get in, and see how I go. 

Uh, bang! I got in. And I lived a very high life, an unintended one, at that, for a good 10 years. And I loved it! I made dear friends for life. I did get to travel the world, but I always was yearning for more. So that was actually where I was always studying as well as doing shift work. The funnily enough thing is I fell into that because colleagues would always come up to me explaining their health issues and it was almost like I was an oracle at the time, because I'd always read all these health magazines. 

And so I would sit there always going, well, try this, change this in your diet and then introduce this sort of stuff. And I'll never forget it. There was one crew member, one day, who said to me, “How do you know all this stuff?” And I go, “I just love reading about women's health, and trying to understand more, and I experiment on myself, to find out what works, and what doesn't.” 

And she pauses, and she looks at me, and she goes, “What the bloody hell are you doing here then?” “Why aren't you studying something else?” And I went, “You know what?” You're right!” And that's when I went off on my  journey of really understanding health, and wellness, and really how we can benefit from it. They all have an understanding of health, and wellness, and really how we can benefit from it all. 

Jo Host

I love that. So many of us have come to our craft in unorthodox ways, which is what makes it special. Like you said, we all experience all our own best testimonials, and our own best guinea pigs. So, how would you explain what kinesiology is? 

This is something that I'm like, “Well, you kind of rub points on your body, and you turn yourself on.” And I'm like, “Oh, this sounds a little X rated.” So, for full disclosure, Claire’s been teaching me kinesiology. And, just like Claire, I've been doing it as a client, or a patient, for over two years now, and it's been mind-boggling. 

And it's something that I wanted to learn more about. It's the first modality that's really grabbed me. How would you explain what it is? And I'm going to take your explanation and bank it for later. Are you ready? 

Claire Guest

This is my one-liner explanation, before I give you what it's really about. So, what I liken it to is, psychology for the body. That's what I call it. 

Jo Host

Oh, I love that! 

Claire Guest

That's the one liner. But, if you were to look up kinesiology from a dictionary terminology, it's the study of movement. And so, originally, it came from basically degrees in chiropractic and stuff overseas. So, this is where they really put it into human movement, and a more chiropractic sort of background. 

But, the form of kinesiology I do is actually called PKP kinesiology. And PKP kinesiology really looks at health, wellness and human performance from a holistic perspective, and so what I mean by that is you look at many other modalities and they specifically cater to certain factors in the human body and healing. 

So, for example, you would look at chiropractic or physio from supporting your body from a structural point of view. You would look at something like medicine and nutrition, from a biochemical point of view. And then, you would look at things like yoga, and Pilates, and all that sort of stuff. You know a lot of that can really come to spiritual feeling, as well as movement. 

Kinesiology brings in the entire pyramid of things really being able to look at the body and how it's functioning from a mental, emotional, physical and spiritual level. My point is that, I basically get to use your muscles to talk to your body, to find out where there are imbalances with your energy. And, ultimately, how that comes up. Or how that is affecting, or creating dis-ease in your body, and issues with energy imbalances. 

Jo Host

Basically makes you a mind reader, or a body reader. And it's three tears, all hell, when you sit there and you're like, “I can't lie to Claire, because my body's going to give me away.”

Claire Guest

No, you can't. The muscles don't lie, and that's the thing. Oh look, I have been called by the locals here. They're like oh, oh, yeah, you're that witch, you're the one that does the witchy stuff. And I'm like no, I go. This is where the human body's that amazing. I get to talk to your body. Like, through your muscles, to find out what's going on. 

Where's the trauma? Where are the emotions? What stories are you telling yourself that are otherwise not allowing you to advance within all areas of your life? And I must say, it's pretty heavy. There are honestly days where I'm like, “No way!” And even with my clients they're like, “No way!” So, it never gets old. 

Jo Host

No, it never gets old. And nothing wrong with being a witch. When I came to see you in Melbourne, I was like, “I feel like a bit more of a witch!” Now I'm like, “Yes!” “Bring this on!” I know, Claire, you work with people from all kinds, obviously. But if you were to think of women in particular, like yourself, I know you've got a little one as well. 

The thought of having our body having any intelligence, almost feels a little bit foreign, because we are very stuck in our heads and very much logical must make sense. How would you explain the wisdom that actually lies in the body and any challenges you've had to overcome in actually listening to it or learning to read it, when you know we can all be quite heady and quite logical? 

Claire Guest

Yeah, what a good question! The human body is so innately intelligent, that if you actually learn to understand the vehicle on which your soul is within, you realize you're actually more capable of the life that you create, than you ever thought before. Here's a perfect example. Women today, or should I say, you know, 99% of the society at the moment is stuck in sympathetic dominance. So, the dominant amount of people are stuck in fight and flight. 

And so, when you have a woman in fight and flight. By nature, she should be beautiful, soft, flowy, and intuitive. And she's able to shift and kick into ease, if and when needed. Not only just by hormonal cycles, but by her ability to approach life differently from men. And so, what you notice in today's society, modern society, has almost conditioned humans to try and run at the same pace as a male, in order to achieve. 

Genetically, this doesn't work for us. It goes against so many hormonal factors, and technically, it goes against our beautiful way that we are designed. Women are highly intuitive. They are able to feel their way through things, and be able to tap into inner reserves, that at points in time, it may feel like we're creating slowly. But, if you look at it, women have the ability to be able to create life. How long does it take to do that? Nine to ten months. Well, ten months, really, by the time bub’s due. 

But it means that we have the ability to create just, as powerfully, and as beautifully, as the opposite sex. But, do it in our own unique way. And so, what I've noticed in modern day society is that, I think, because women had to fight to be seen, heard, and to be thought of as equal in the workspace, you know. You think of the 60s, 70s, and that we had to do double the amount of work in order to show that we were valued. 

It's almost like now, we're trying to unconditionally, through generations that we've perhaps seen in our parents, and learn that we don't have to fight. Everything doesn't have to be enforced every day. We can go back into flow, and so when we're in flow, as I said before, we disassociate from our feelings, and the human body has this wonderful system in it. It's called the intraoperative system. 

The intraoperative system is like, a whole bunch of, how would I explain? A sensory system that's embedded in the body. And so, the body's sensory network will always send messages to you, explaining what it needs. And then your brain should be able to react, go and say, “Yep, I know what you need.” And therefore, we'll go and do something. At a basic level, you have senses in most of your organs and in most of the systems. 

So, your bladder has a sense in it, and it says, “Oh, I need a pee.” It sends a message to the brain. The brain goes, “All right, we'll go to the toilet.” Your stomach, when you're in tune with your body, will send a message to the brain and go, “Oh, I've eaten enough.” “I'm full.” And the brain should send a signal and go, “All right, we'll stop eating.” That's when it works beautifully. Really, really busy people have disconnected from this system. And so they struggle to not only emotionally regulate, they struggle to know when they're hungry, or when they're full. 

It's almost like they actually use their elimination process properly. Which means, a lot of people don't go to the toilet properly. A lot of people can't understand basic intuitive or sensory cues. For example, “This person's making me uncomfortable.” “That doesn't feel right for me.” “I'm uncomfortable in this situation.” 

And so, the reason why I mention this is because when we're in tune with our body, your body will signal to you what feels right. What doesn't feel right, it'll send signals of, “I'm full.” “I don't need to eat anymore.” “We need to go to the toilet.” I can know when to sleep, I can know when to emotionally regulate myself. That's a beautiful, harmonised body. 

But, most people, and particularly women that are overcooked have forgotten how to shift into gears. They're disconnected from this wonderful sensory system that should tell them so many other wonderful moments on how to make decisions, how to navigate through life, and really how to use their body for the best. 

Jo Host

As you said, the amount of women that say to me, “Oh my gosh, it got to 5 o'clock, and I realised I was busting for the toilet”, because they're completely disconnected, and forgot to pee. I mean, seriously! Of all the vital, as you said, vital functions that our body holds, to forget to do that one because we're too stuck in our heads. 

Claire Guest

100% Most people also forget to drink. So, your brain requires fat and water in order to function. And most people they will come to me for, say, if they've booked an early morning session, they haven't even drank any water. So, you've gone through all of nighttime, you've come here in the morning. 

And basically, now I'm not only dealing with a brain that is not kicked on, but I'm also dealing with muscles that don't respond that well, because they can, how would I say, appear weak when they're dehydrated. Yeah, it's quite fascinating to realise how intelligent the human body is. But, society is so incredibly disconnected from it. 

Jo Host

And it's interesting when you talk about having these other senses available, in terms of intuition, and how our body knows what it wants. And so many women come to me, and I'm sure you see them too, and like, “Oh, you know, I'm at a crossroads, and I can't make up my mind, because I think I should want this and, deep down, my parents probably want me to have this, and my partner says I should do this, and society says that.” And they're so full of “shoulds” that they've completely lost touch with what they truly want. Is that something you're saying a lot too?

Claire Guest

100% God, I heard something a long time ago, and they said, “Believe it or not, shoulds are linked to thyroid issues.” Think about it. “Shoulds.” So, it's always like, when we're in “shoulds” or “what-ifs”, every thought and process you have, this is probably where the body is a bit of a glitch. It's so wonderful, and so amazing. But, if you're constantly thinking all the time, guess what it does? It forgets to kick into gears. 

So, overthinking will cause an issue with the hypothalamus gland. Shoulds will cause an issue with your thyroid. And so now, certain signals of, “I can sleep”, “I can wake up with ease”, “I can regulate my body temperature”, have all gone out the window. And people will go, “Oh my God, I've got a structural problem.” It's not. It's your mental and emotional state that have just created this entire kaleidoscope of issues. 

Jo Host

And it's interesting you say that. We talk about disease, and the body being in dis-ease. And so many people go to pop a pill, or rush to the physio, or think it is structural. When, certainly in my journey, and that of many of my clients, there is always a mind, body, spirit component, to most things, isn't there? So, someone comes with a, you know, sore shoulder. Or a, you know, sore hips. 

It's like, “Hmm, wonder what's stored in the hips.” But, people don't even realise. I mean, modern medicine is starting to catch up, or you could call it “alternative medicine”, whether it's acupuncture, or something else. But, how different areas of the body, whatever ailments you have, can also be an indicator of something else going on. Apart from, like you said, structural. 

Claire Guest

100% There's so many wonderful authors, and good books, that would even touch on this. So, if people ever wanted to learn more, there are books like: Annette Noontil ‘The Body is the Barometer of the Soul’. And she even, like, marks certain areas of the body. If there's issues going on there, it can relate to where you're at mentally, emotionally and what's possibly happening in life. 

It's the same as Inia Jardine and Evette Rose. They've written literally a library's worth of metaphysical books. And so, when people think, “Oh my god, my shoulder's giving me grief. “I better go see the physio, or the osteo.” It doesn't mean you always have a shoulder problem. 

It could be, you are shouldering a lot in life, and therefore, you have an issue there. But, your body's actually trying to get your awareness to deal with it. What's creating that meaning? What lifestyle patterns have you got? What is your thought process like? What is your mental emotional state that's contributing, or creating, your physical problem? We've got it all backwards. 

Jo Host

Yeah. It is funny how so many people, as you said, go physical first and never actually think, “Oh, I better go to the physio.” I think, well, you know particularly hip issues, gut issues. They're so common amongst women. Obviously, hips are where we store guilt and shame. 

And it's like, “Hang on, how could it be that people, who've had people come to me, and they've had hip and gut issues for 15 years?” And they come, and do the work on themselves. And magically, it just disappears overnight, sometimes. Like, hmm, what does that tell you? I'm sure you have those stories, don't you? All the time of pain that magically disappears? 

Claire Guest

One of the best ones I heard, that nearly got me, gave me a bit of a teary, was a while ago. I had actually had a long-term client, and she worked her butt off in corporate, but was doing everything right. She would work out six times a week, had a personal trainer, would eat right, but always said that she could never understand why her body physically didn't look the way she thought it would, considering everything she was doing correct, by the book. 

And through kinesiology. Over time, what we unravelled is, believe it or not, it had nothing to do with her nutrition. It had nothing to do with her exercise. It actually had to do with a boyfriend that she dated, when I think she was about 21, who basically put her down on how she looked physically. And that had created a subconscious program, in like, the way that she would see herself. 

Like, “I'm the big girl.” “I've always got to have issues.” “This is how I'm always going to look.” And when we cracked open that in the session, oh my god, the floodgates opened. It made her realise that her view of herself was really a view of someone who thought less of her. And that's what had locked into her psyche. Does that make sense? So, “They thought I wasn't that great, and therefore, I'm not that great.” 

And, it actually kept her bound up in her physical form, because that's how she subconsciously thought she was like, believe it or not. And I still am blown away with this. She lost 10 kilos later. And I think that was in four months, or less than. And I was like, “What didn't change?” It had nothing to do with nutrition, nothing to do with exercise. 

It had to do with letting go of the story, and the old trauma. So, it's funny, I think. Joe Dispenza even goes on saying, “90% of dis-ease in the body is created from your mental and emotional state.” And when we say “dis-ease”, it's not like, “Oh my god, I've got pyelo disease, or I've got cancer, or anything like that.” I'm talking about “dis-ease”, meaning it's not balanced. There is a disruption in harmony, and that's what then creates your physical symptomatology.

Jo Host

And even, yeah, what Jo often says is that it may be the mental and emotional that puts the shoulder out. And then, the biomechanics kick in, and then your shoulders out, and you'll compensate with your knee. So, then you're going to get a sore knee. That, yes. That's physical. But it's as a result of the shoulder, that's got all the stuff trapped in it. 

Claire Guest

100%

Jo Host

It’s just, it's crazy! So, this is what I love. It’s when we get to actually do this work and, as you said, you know, earlier on. You said that we kind of, we come with everything that we need. And we hear so many of these. They're almost magnets. And, you know, affirmations that, “You know, you were the only thing in your way.” “But, the more I do this work, the more I see that you have everything that you need, and you are the only one in your way.” So, while we might blame the job, or the partner, or the economic circumstance, more often than not, it's us. Isn't it like, just locking ourselves up? 

Claire Guest

100% And I've also been guilty of doing that as well. Hence the reason why I get kinesiology sessions done on myself, as well. That's really a human mind, isn't it? Like, that victim mentality. It's easy to blame everyone else, instead of looking exactly at ourselves. And, over the years, we are going on this journey. 

That is probably what I've been forever grateful for. We've been going down the kinesiology path. You see, unlike many modalities, in order for people to learn kinesiology in the form that I do, you have to learn every protocol, every procedure. And not only do you have to learn to do that, you have to experiment. 

I shouldn't say experiment, but you have to practise that on fellow students, and on other people. And you also have to experience it yourself, which basically means you have to sort, or you get to sort all your shit out for like, the first 12 months, of even learning to become a kinesiologist. But, the best thing about it is that it means you're not rejecting your own stories, onto other people. 

Jo Host

Yeah, well, that's the first place, even as a coach, that you have to start, like you said. Because if you've got, “Oh, you know, that was a bad session.” “What does that mean about me?” Then you're gonna completely get in the way. So, just like the best way to, I think I said to you, “When we're in Melbourne, you're the best”. Often the best way to start your spiritual journey, or to grow, is to start your own business. 

So, to become a coach, to have a role, where you have to sort your own shit out. I mean, this is even what they talk about, from a leadership perspective. You have to start off by leading yourself. So, it's everywhere! Otherwise, you're projecting, and everyone's just going to vomit all their stuff back on you, because you're saying, “Bring it on.” 

Claire Guest

Well, so true. And there's one thing I actually have come to learn, I think. From the students that I've had the privilege of teaching over the last few years, is that the more human you are, and the more you’re actually able to share, “Hey, you know what?” “I've walked this road.” “I've been down this.” “This is what I can feel.” People, they want to be able to relate to you. They want to be able to go, “Oh, my god, you're speaking my language, you've experienced this.” You know what? Look at where you are now! Okay, I know this is possible. 

And so, I think too often in society, we think everything has to be very polished, everything has to be very perfect. When, really, every time you try to go and do that, you actually make yourself, not less attractive to other people. I would say, you lessen your ability to allow other people to be able to connect with you. So, you lose that magnetism. 

And so, I think, if anything, on this wonderful journey, it's almost like, it taught me more and more, you have to be able to just be your own unique self. And if you even try and steer clear on that, well, should I say, stray off that path, and even try and think you're going to be a snippet of someone else. I guarantee you, there's like a higher power, or another guy that comes in and goes, “Oh no, you're not” and it smacks you down. 

Jo Host

Yep, yep. No, you're not, and it smacks you down. Yep, yep, big word “authenticity.” But you're right, especially in a social media glossed world, it can be very easy to be inauthentic. And I mean, perfectionism is rife. Perfectionism, particularly amongst women, is a chronic issue. Because, they're worried about being seen as being vulnerable, or as not being perfect. But, as you said, the beauty is when you do the work on yourself. You can actually embrace your quirks, and your weirdness, and everybody loves you more for that, rather than less. That's where the gold is. 

Claire Guest

And you know, I think a lot of people … what do they always say? Like, you're a soul. You're a soul in a body, but on the outside, this is a human form. And so, you've got to be gentle on your human form, sometimes. Because, if someone else is trying to have a go at you, maybe it's also a reflection of: they're seeing something new, that they would love to. Learning to take the judgement off has probably been the most beautiful, and very fascinating part of this journey. 

Learning to be able to just meet people with where they are, and I guess, instead of judging, being in this space. My favourite space to be in, is just being a space of open curiosity. And so, the question, “I wonder how you got to how you are?” Or, “I wonder, where does this come from?” “Where did you evolve from?” 

And so, what I found over the years, working with so many different types of people from so many different backgrounds. I've always been pleasantly surprised. And I've allowed myself to consistently be pleasantly surprised with human behaviour, and understanding where people were at. And I think, prior to that, my early 20’s, or when I was 18, I was probably more sarcastic and more judgmental, then. But yeah, no, I'm more humbled now, with people. 

Jo Host

Yeah, you mentioned being a soul in a human body. How has your understanding of spirituality opened up, as you've gone on this journey to understand energy, and move away from things that make sense? And, you know, embracing your witchy skills, and expanding them even? 

Claire Guest

Well, I guess the first thing to clarify is the word “spirituality.” It’s different for everyone. And so, some people would use the word “spirituality” as, okay, they may align it with religious beliefs. Or, how would I say … energy beliefs, or godlike beliefs, or something like that. For me, spirituality is my ability to be able to feel, connect to myself, and also feel and connect to the greater world, or greater things around me. 

And so, as I've learned more about who I am, my journey through growing up, and really going on this wonderful energy modality, being kinesiology. I've become a lot more sensitive to my environment, to the people I give my time to. But not only that. From a beautiful level, I've become a lot more sensitive to connecting with nature, and the world around me. 

And so, it's funny. I never feel alone. I always love being more in my own space than I ever have before. And what I find is, the more you evolve, the more you just start to become acutely aware of what you put in your body, who you socialise with, and old habits seem to just fall away by the wayside. I think, the more that you learn, and you grow, and you become more energetically connected. Does that make sense? 

Jo Host

Yeah, yeah. And, as you said, “spirituality” can be a loaded word. It can be a divisive word. But, like you, I think as you go on this journey, to discover more about yourself, the amount of coincidences and intuitive nudges. Or, you start stringing them all together and go, “Maybe it's not a coincidence” and “Maybe this is connected, and maybe I'm connected to that person.” “And I feel like I've just met this person, but I feel like I've met them before.” It opens up such curiosity to there being more than just us, here in this 3D world. So, it's a fun journey to explore.

Claire Guest

100% And I think I've learned to listen to my body more. I've been very blessed to have been introduced to a lot of different energy spaces. So, by that I mean, yes, I'm trained in kinesiology. But, I have a dear colleague. I watched her evolve. Even though she was doing kinesiology, she went down the shamanic route. I was curious about what she was doing. 

So, I started doing some shamanic work. But, for me, it wasn't about being a shamanic practitioner. It was more about evolving myself, finding out what my gifts were, and being able to have a deeper connection to myself. and my environment around me. So, then I can create my own things from a beautiful space, that's really authentic. 

But, even throughout that journey. I've learned there's a wonderful guy … Let me think of his name, it'll come to me when I think of it. And he's helped me reconnect. Doing his meditations, and part of his programs on Mindvalley, have really helped me connect to my higher self, and be able to connect to my spirit body. 

So, when you're actually creating material from a female perspective, we're not stuck in our mental mind. You're energetically tuning into what feels right. “Is it a priority for now?” “Is this something I can do later?” And you can sort of communicate to your higher self. 

And, when you do, I mean it probably sounds a bit funny when I'm explaining it like this. But, being able to connect with yourself mentally, emotionally, energetically, and spiritually, allows the funnel of creation to come through from a completely different perspective, and put you back into “flow state”, instead of doing your own heading, and trying to go into “force state.” 

Jo Host

Yeah, and this is this beautiful gift of intuition. Whether you call it ideas, sparks, downloads. This is what I love. And I think so many women can connect to this, the speed with which we can create is epic. Without force, without hustle, and it gets to be easy. That's one of the greatest gifts that I have certainly learned, and I hope to pass it on to others, so that we don't have to push, and grind, and work 80 hours a week, to make it work.

Claire Guest

100% Well, what do they say? Oh God, I hope they get this right. The balance between masculine and feminine, is the feminine is allowing the funnel of creation to come through. Then, the masculine is then being able to methodically put steps in place, to then materialise that. And so, if you look at it from that sort of standpoint, there's your balance right there. It's just allowing ourselves to have that beautiful marriage of the two, to really bring that together, and embody all of that. Instead of having to be one way, or the other. 

Jo Host

That's what it's all about! It's all about balance. Hence my company's name. 

Claire Guest

Appropriately named, I must say.

Jo Host

Yes, yes, absolutely! Absolutely. Well, Claire, thank you so much for spending time with us today! It's been beautiful to hear your perspectives, any parting words for anybody who maybe wants to learn, maybe a little bit more about kinesiology? Or about you? 

Claire Guest

Well, parting words. If you want to know more about kinesiology, I would say, if you really want to go on this wonderful journey, well, actually, let me rephrase this with two things. I teach kinesiology, so if you want to be a brilliant kinesiologist, I can show you how to do that within 12 months. But, if you want to be one of about 70 in the world with being a kinesiopractor, and have over 365 different skills, where you can help people connect with themselves and heal, then I can take you on a five-year journey for that one, as a kinesiopractor. 

But, if you were just to love, which is what I taught you, some energy tools. Well, you can learn how to, “muscle test.” You can learn how to understand the minute movements of your body, to find out what's aligned with you and what's not. And also, if you're working with clients, to find out what the emotion is, and what's going on with your clients, so you can help them shift from A to B, to C to D, and really fast track their growth. Then, I've created a little short course for that as well. 

So, yeah, I've kind of tried to cater for all things, because I love what I do so much, and I want to be able to give people energy tools. or teach brain kinesiologists. That's what I do now. If you'd love to know more about that, you can head to the northern school of northernschool.com.au. Or otherwise known as the Northern School of Kinesiology, or you can just privately message me, and ask me, “What's on offer?” 

Jo Host

I love it! And we'll be sure to put your Instagram handle, and your website, and everything down in the show notes. So, if you're interested in learning more, do reach out to Claire! She's an absolute legend. She's a lot of fun, and has a beautiful example of how to bring your full self to what you do. So, thank you Claire, for sharing. And I'm sure people will get in touch, soon. 

Claire Guest

Thank you very much! That's so sweet of you. Thanks for having me! 

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