Balance & Beyond Podcast

Have you ever stood at the crossroads of high-performance and personal well-being, wondering which path to take?

That's the heartbeat of our latest episode, where we welcome Brook Bishop, a trailblazer in personal development and operational mastery for profitability. Our walk down memory lane begins with the emblematic purple gown, marking the dawn of my entrepreneurial adventure and Brook's profound influence on it. Together, we unravel the complexities of leading at the top while maintaining the equilibrium of our health and happiness. Brook's experience with renowned industry leaders lends a rich perspective on the price of relentless ambition and the wisdom in knowing when to pause for self-care.

Navigating the stormy seas of perfectionism, this conversation dives into the overwhelming pressures women face to excel in every aspect of life. He reveals his own 'prime time' morning routine, blending science-backed wellness with the magic of intuition, offering a lifeline to those caught in the undertow of societal and self-imposed expectations. We spotlight the courage to live authentically, challenging the norms and carving out a life of intention and truth. This segment is a rallying cry for women everywhere to seize control of their narratives and craft a life that resonates with their innermost values.

The episode's narrative arc crests with the poignant tale of his family's transformative journey following his wife's accident. It's a sobering look at our collective awakening to the trappings of a consumerist lifestyle, leading us to shed the excess and embrace simplicity. Brook and Jo examine the art of boundary-setting, intentional living, and the profound impact our choices have on shaping the young minds around us. Our discussion culminates with a heartfelt invitation to listeners to share these insights with friends who might also be seeking harmony amidst life's tumult. This episode isn't just a conversation; it's a portal to a more purposeful way of being.

 

You can find out more about our special guest Brook at www.empirepartners.io

Episode Transcript

INTRO: Welcome to Balance and Beyond, the podcast for ambitious women who refuse to accept burnout as the price of success. Here, we’re committed to empowering you with the tools and strategies you need to achieve true balance, where your career, relationships and health all thrive, and where you have the power to define success on your own terms. I honour the space you’ve created for yourself today, so take a breath, and let's dive right in…

Jo (Host)

Welcome to Balance and Beyond, Brooke Bishop. We have a special guest here today. Say hi, Brooke!

Brooke (Guest)

Hello, hello. 

Jo (Host)

And what you can't see, is I'm recording this on video, and I'm wearing a purple robe, a fluffy purple dressing gown. Brooke, before you introduce yourself, what do you know of the purple gown, and what's its significance to our relationship? 

Brooke (Guest)

The purple yeah. Without context, that could be taken in so many ways, who knows? We should just leave it open-ended, and not tell anyone. No, you and I, man it was, what? Three years ago, I think? Yeah, even more than that, now. Yeah, we met through the world of clients on demand. And there was this thing, every time we would be on zoom sessions together, it was obviously very early in AUS. 

And I'd always be like, “Why are you wearing your purple robe?” And, it was, you know, because you've just woken up. It's usually because you got up at 4am, to be able to jump on a zoom, or something of that nature. So, yeah, it was. It was the token item that would always be on zooms. 

Jo (Host)

It was. And I started to get a reputation for being, “The purple gown person.” Which, even though it's now a little bit old, you know, that was sort of 2018-19. I was doing some of that program when the purple gown really was at its forefront, before I owned an Oodie, and all the other good things that have come since, and I can't bring myself to throw it out. I feel like I need to mount it, like a kimono on a wall. Like, “This was the gown that everything was birthed in.” “This is where you started your business.”

Brooke (Guest)

You have to sign it. 

Jo (Host)

I know. One day, one day, I’ll adorn it with various landmarks. But, Brooke, you're obviously an absolute legend, and a genius. I would love you to introduce yourself, and give some context as to how, you know, what you've brought to the world of purple gowns. And that could also sound very naughty. 

Brooke (Guest)

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how to answer that question. 

Jo (Host)

Maybe I could also add some of our best conversations have been in a hot tub. I'm like, there we go. 

Brooke (Guest)

At a hot tub. We had adjoining rooms at one point, in a hotel. Yeah, there's so much mystery in this conversation. 

Jo (Host)

So, why don't we give them the clean version of what it is that you do, and what's been in your background? 

Brooke (Guest)

Yeah, so my background has been predominantly in the world of personal development, and the world of coaching. My expertise of where I've been at, has really been with operations, with sales, with marketing, with leadership, and within those different elements, helping people be profitable in their adventures. I've been the systems guy, not so much the tech systems guy, but really the operational process. I’m the making-sure-that-we-can-be-profitable-guy, 

Jo (Host)

Hmm, and you've worked with some pretty big names in your time, haven't you? 

Brooke (Guest)

A few big names, yes, in the personal development space. It was funny, we were joking before, because today's been a very busy day in the world of interview conversation. It was funny. We were just talking, somebody mentioned in the conversation, “The Secret.” So, remember the movie, “The Secret?” 

Jo (Host)

Yep. 

Brooke (Guest)

And I was like, “Oh, I've actually worked with every single person that was interviewed on the Secret!” It's fascinating. But yeah, and I've got to work with some of the biggest names in the game. For 15 years, I actually got to work as an executive for Tony Robbins. 

So, I got to be his right-hand man and run multiple departments and divisions for him. And I got to work with people in the real estate space. Obviously, all the humans in the secret, Rhonda Burns peeps, since she's down from where you guys are at. But yeah, I've got to do quite a few things. 

Jo (Host)

Yeah, absolutely so. I'd love to know, being around such high performers, and obviously being one yourself, those types of people would spit you out very fast, if you weren't able to keep up with them. What have been some of the patterns you've seen around high performance, and leadership? Like you said, you're a “systems guy.” But, you're also incredibly good at seeing patterns in people, and performance, so I'd love you to share, what are you seeing? 

Brooke (Guest)

Yeah, so, from within my world. So, for those of you, if they're hearing the audio of this, I had hair at the beginning of my career. I no longer do. So, there's actually a yin and yang. So, it's a very interesting question you bring up. Because, part of what pushed me out of some of those larger organizations, was also the thing that in the beginning I loved. So, we're using Tony as the example, in this space, 

You either had to play at a very, very high level. Or, to your point, you would get pushed out. And so, there was this dynamic of not just achievement, but you had to be “on your A game” all the time. Because, if you weren't, he is a wizard, he's a master of reading body language, he's a master of tonality and language. He's a master of seeing how much certainty you do, or do not have, in your system. 

And so, for him to have somebody who's close to him, he's going to look to you and go, “Okay, is this going to get done?” And, based on how you said, “Yes”, determine, “Is this going to be a four-hour intervention with him, or does he really truly believe it?” 

And, truth be told, if there was any doubt in my system, he could read it. So, I would have to be able to go “Yes, it's going to get done.” And have that level of certainty in it, or be like, you know, what we need to do to unearth this. So, there's a lot of trust that would be established within that, over the course of time. 

But, yeah, when I ultimately decided to leave that organization, there were four of us. So, you had Tony at the top. There were four of us executives. So, me being the fourth. Three of the four, two had cancer that they were dealing with. Another was having a hip that couldn't heal and couldn't walk, and was potentially going to lose a leg. And so then I'm sitting there going, “Wait a minute.” “This level of expectation might not be the healthiest thing for me in the long run.” And so, that was a huge piece of why I decided to actually leave. 

Jo (Host)

Absolutely. And how do you balance that desire to be around high performance, and also balance life. Because you've got two kids, we've got kids the same age. How have you done that? Obviously those types of environments. You see, I often joke with my clients that, “Tony can be one of those guys that wake up, and I know he has his trampoline, and his cold plunge, and his smoothies, and he meditates.” 

I'm like, “Where's the making the lunch boxes, and getting the children?
I know he's got older kids, and no newer kids. But, who's getting the children to school? This morning, I've been cleaning.  Like, who's doing all that stuff? How do you, how have you seen that either of those people do it, and what have you learned from that, in your life?

Brooke (Guest)

So, this is where Brooke drops a grenade into the podcast. Part of my philosophy is that balance is actually a very big challenge. And so, I don't actually personally go after balance, I go after harmony. Because there's going to be “moments.”

I look at things as being seasonal, right? I find it much easier to create harmony with things, versus trying to find balance with things, because my brain sees balance as like having, you know, six plates spinning and getting them all to be spinning simultaneously, and nothing's crashing. For me, that's tough

So, to your point, like, yes, we have kids the same age. We homeschool them, I work from home. Like, there's a lot of dynamics. You might've heard a dog bark in the background about 10 minutes ago, right? There's not a lot of balance happening at the moment. So, we look for more harmony, where there's this piece of, “How do we get everything to coalesce?” And, “How do we get things to work together?” 

Time management is a huge piece. We actually teach a principle. We call it, “The Success Ladder.” And so, this is something we actually teach in our company. And it's really tough for a lot of people to get their head wrapped around, when it comes to time management. 

So, our whole piece is, “Who do you actually want to be remembered as?” So, if you kind of fast forward in time, and you imagine it's 150 years in the future, cause we're going to all live to be that long, but you've passed on, and you're at your own memorial service, and you're looking down at the people who come to see you, or to say goodbye, and it's really getting clear of, “What values do you want them to actually share about you, in the aftermath?” 

And then, reverse engineering from that to, “Okay, well, what do I need to accomplish in my life, to live a life that's in alignment with those values?” And then, this is the key question of, “Who do I need to show up to as, from a place of identity today, or this week. or this month, to then live out a life that leads to being remembered for those things.” So, yeah, my whole thing is really more around identity, and managing time and space around values, versus the other parts of trying to keep it all together. Cause, it's very tough to keep it together. 

Jo (Host)

Yeah, and it's funny. Most women come to me, as you said, saying, “Oh my God, I've got no balance.” And I often see, it's no surprise, that we've got clients singing from very similar song sheets, in terms of, I use the word
“Balance.” But, what I am  often preaching, is that it’s never about 50/50. It's not, “Everything is in perfect balance.” We do have seasons, you do have phases. And there's so much friction, when we don't recognise that. Insane, right? 

Brooke (Guest)

Yeah.

Jo (Host)

Yeah.

Brooke (Guest)

Yeah. 

Jo (Host)

One thing I'd love to say is, obviously, the women that I typically work with sorry, the people I typically work with, are women, and are female. What have you seen in these, whether it's through the secret or your high performance environments, or your ability to spot patterns, where are you seeing any, let's say, gaps between where women can step up, and where are women not stepping into their strengths enough? 

Brooke (Guest)

And not to sound overly cliche, because I think it's discussed quite frequently. But, I think there's a slightly different take on perfection. And when I see the perfection piece come into play, full transparency, I feel we've done women a massive disservice over the last, let's say, 50 to 100 years. 

Women today have to be perfect in every single area of their life. Their hair has to be perfect, their eyelashes have to be perfect, their skin's not allowed to ever wrinkle. It has to stay perfect, and it has to, you know, our physical body shape, women's body shapes, have to be a certain way. 

Now, you have to be a mega performer in the business space, and then you also have to be a super mom, and you have to be an incredible wife and you're never allowed to falter. So, I feel like there’s this crazy expectation. 

But I think there's two pieces. I think there's external expectation, and then there's also internal expectation of being perfect at all things, kind of going back to all the plates having to stay spinning. And if a plate, if even one plate, crashes, the psychological piece is that it feels as if all the plates have crashed, right? 

And so, that's where I see the pattern piece come into play. There's this identity of, “I have to be a perfect woman.” And there's this expectation, and it's like, “Holy moly.” “How on earth is that going to ever be achievable?” And I see a lot of women setting themselves up for failure before they even start, which is why I feel so many are on antidepressants, and why so many turn to other avenues, to try and feel a certain way. 

Jo (Host)

Absolutely. And so, what are your thoughts on how they overcome this? Obviously, working at the identity level, which is what we want to do, right? Because, exactly to your point, there's so many band-aids. And there's so many, “Oh, just try to manage my time better.” And I'll try and do this, and it never works, it never lasts. 

Brooke (Guest)

Yes, I think the first piece is being intentional, and that might sound for achievers, especially for just thinking of who in your orbit might be listening to something like this. You know, being intentional with not just your time. I think that's an important piece of it, but I feel like being intentional with your time is a secondary effect. 

It's being intentional with who you see yourself as and making a declaration of who you will be, but then really having that honest conversation of are you living in alignment with that or are you falling back into the default modes of how you've either been conditioned or how you, yourself, have conditioned, or are you just trying to live up to expectations of your parents that you're not even aware of what happened. 

When you're a little kid, or your boss says that you had your second job that you're still trying to make happy even though you don't work for them? I think that that's where it gets really. I think that's the most critical piece of are you living a life of intention and are you in alignment with that intention? 

Jo (Host)

Yeah, I know you say it might feel a bit weird, but I've done entire podcast episodes on intention and alignment, so you're in the right space and I know you're a data guy. 

You know I've had some data through my aura ring where my HRV which I'm sure you you know about from a um, as I've sort of crafted my new programs and stepped more alignment with my business, my HRV, between August and January, just trended up every single month. 

It was insane as I got more and more alignment, more and more. When you've got the data that matches the woo, if you will, or the intention of the things that can be intangible, and then you get data to support it, it can blow your mind. 

Brooke (Guest)

Oh, 100%, yes, yeah. 

Jo (Host)

Speaking of data, you're a numbers guy. You're the guy that sits up the front and has given me a spreadsheet that says put this number in here and then “Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” A numbers guy, how do you balance that with more of this, whether you call it the woo or the intention or your intuition? How do you balance both? 

Brooke (Guest)

Really good question. It's interesting because you know other people that have been in my orbit, such as my mentors, who is also my uncle, my mentor, who is also my uncle. He's so not that I had to pick up all the pieces and become that, but at a simple level. 

I don't start my day with data, so the first two hours of my day are what I refer to as prime time, so I don't I don't refer to it as the morning. Only, things we mourn are usually things we don't like, or that we've lost, and so I don't usually start my day with morning time. It's prime time. So, my first two hours are all “woo stuff.” So, wait, how much information do we want to divulge? 

Jo (Host)

My people are learning to like the woo. 

Brooke (Guest)

All right.

Jo (Host)

They're embracing the woo, so bring it on. 

Brooke (Guest)

So the first two hours are what I call prime time. I do meditation, I do red light therapy, I do a daily coffee enema, and I do something called MMS, which is a Miracle Mineral Solution. So, it's a full detoxifier, to help pull every ounce of toxin out of the system. 

So, I start my day off with literally purging as much as I can out of my system, and then I do a whole series of breath work, and body movement while blindfolded, to charge up my energy centres, and get fully centred and aligned with myself, and there's a whole piece of Ho'opono that weaves into that. 

So, I have literally a two hour window that is for me to literally get my system aligned, and be fully present, and to be in a space where I can serve at the highest level. So my woo time, right, my prime time, it's not so much I mean “We could get into the data, and the science behind all of it, and all that rigmarole.” But, it's really so that I can be in a space where I am fully aligned, and my energy is totally there, so that I can serve at the highest level. 

Jo (Host)

And how do you balance? I mean, I guess I gave you a hint there, where you've gone into the science around “knowing.” You've probably got all the neuroscience, and is that how you've allowed them, yourself, to follow those nudges and follow those nuggets that come up, that you go? That doesn't make any sense. 

I mean, everyone who listens to me has heard my many stories, about selling houses, or going to Norway, and doing these crazy things that don't make sense. They're not logical. Everyone around you thinks you've gone crazy, and yet when you're in alignment, and you know that you're meant to do it, and you do it anyway, even when you don't have data to back you up. 

Brooke (Guest)

You mean, I didn't have you at coffee enema.

Jo (Host)

I mean I’ve tried all kinds of things now, Brooke, you should know that. 

Brooke (Guest)

This is true. Uh, yeah, I mean I'm blessed that I've been in an environment with people that wanted to push the edge. So, whether it was skydiving, whether it was swimming with sharks, whether it's, you know, hiking the craziest of places. 

So, pushing the envelope and doing the crazy, I mean the amount of times that somebody said, why the hell are you doing that? I mean it became a regular occurrence from like I want to see what's going to happen. So, my morning routine, my prime time, didn't start off with the pieces, all the elements I just mentioned, but one of the elements that has always been really, really important is discipline. 

And so, I was 17 when I started into martial arts and that really built a strong foundation of, “I need to be disciplined.” But, most importantly, the first two hours of my day are paramount. And so, those two hours, what I do with it, is going to set up the dominoes for the rest of my world for the day. And if all we have, is this moment of being really critical of, “Am I doing the things to put myself in the best position to win today?” 

And so, there's a masculine dynamic of like, “Win the day!” That's there. But, my wife does the same. She doesn't do all the same steps of what I do, but, she does her world, for she actually does three hours to get in her orbit, because she needs more time, and she goes into deeper meditations, and she does her whole world of crazy. 

So yeah, for me it really was a matter of going, “Okay to to be at my best for my wife, I have to take that time, and I have to feed my energy, so that I have it for me to be the best husband to my or, sorry, for me to be the best father for my kids.” 

If I haven't taken care of myself, like, there's a very high probability I would have no energy at the end of the day, where I'd be like, “Oh my gosh, I have nothing to give them, when I leave my office today.” But, because I've taken care of myself, I come out of the other side of that, fully alive, and ready for them. So, I don't know if I answered the question within that,

Jo (Host)

What I know somebody listening is thinking, is going, “So, you're taking two hours, and your wife's taking three, who's taking care of the kids?” And this is the argument that I'm curious about your answer, because I've got a lot of thoughts on this. But, you know, and everyone's like, “I've got to get up at four in the morning.” But, there's so many excuses as to why they can't do it. And, here you are, both doing it. 

Brooke (Guest)

Yes. So one thing that's really big is, do you have four hours for this episode? So, 2016, my wife and I, she actually was walking out of a restaurant with our youngest at that point in time. So my daughter was baby, baby. My wife walked out of our favourite restaurant, and when she went to step off the curb she rolled her ankle, and in doing so, to protect the baby, she rolled one way, and broke her right leg. There was a parked car there. 

So, as she was falling, she rolled the other direction, and she broke her other leg. So, we had a one-year-old at home, and we also had a three-year-old at home. I was working from home and now I had a wife who had two broken legs. In the course of that, my wife, because she couldn't go anywhere, she asked me, “Hey, can you get a map of the United States?” And I'm like, “Sure!”

So, I ordered a map on Amazon. I didn't think anything of it, because I was too busy to even ask any questions. So, the next day, the map showed up, I put it on the wall for her, and when I came in from work that next day. she had tax all over the whole thing. And she goes, “Let's get rid of everything, and let's go on the road.” 

Now, already having two littles and having a wife with two broken legs and working from home, I'm like how can we make this more chaotic? Okay, let's get rid of everything and let's go on the road. But we did that. So, while she was recovering, we mapped out our whole plan, and we literally gave all of our belongings away, and we went and travelled for about a three-year window. 

In doing that, we questioned everything. And when I say, “everything”, it was like “Why do we have our comforter made out of those materials?” “Why do we use that shampoo?” “Why are we cooking with those seasonings?” “Why are we staying here?” “What is this line that says ‘you're in this state’ versus that state?” The rules aren't on this side, or this way, the rules are on that line, or this way? Like we really got into, “What the hell do we believe, and what are we doing?” 

And so, to the word that you mentioned earlier, our whole life became about, “What is our intention?” “Are we in alignment with it?” And so, the kids were young enough at that point that they just rolled with what we did. And so we literally set it up to where they go, “Mommy and daddy have their time in the morning.” 

Like, up until nine o'clock, you get to do whatever you want. You can make yourself breakfast, if you have breakfast, if you're hungry, you can. You can stay in bed, if you want to. You can play video games. Like, you can do whatever you want up until this window of time, cause mommy and daddy are taking care of themselves. 

And so, we just drew this line, a line in the sand with them, and it's funny, because they get up, they take care of themselves, they get up, they have their time that they usually will stay in their room, or they go to their space. and they have their own process, and they're emulating what we do. And so, we've created our own rhythm, and they have their own rhythm that they get to play with. 

Jo (Host)

So, yeah, that was way less than four hours, but it was beautiful. I got a lot out of the details of it. 

Brooke (Guest)

I'm sorry. 

Jo (Host)

But, that's a beautiful example of you going first, and being role models. Because, the amount of women in my world, if I say, “Do you want your kids to live the same life as you?” Like, “Hell no.” “I don't want my children to feel this way.” “I don't want my kids to feel this exhausted.” “I don't want them to feel the constant worry of failure, and beating themselves up, and yet they don't ever do anything different.” 

I love that you guys went first, and you said, “We matter.” I know it's cliche but, put the oxygen mask on yourself first, and then we've got something left in the tank. Women wake up feeling so guilty, that they can't even begin. It's crazy. 

Brooke (Guest)

One of the things I failed to share, was the trigger for us to go on the road. So, yes, she had broken her legs, and that was the circumstance. But my son was three years old at the time and he goes, “Hey, mommy, daddy, where are we going shopping this weekend?” As a three-year-old. 

That's when my wife and I looked at each other. We're like, “What do you mean?” And he goes, “Oh well, that's what we do on weekends, we go shoppin, so, I want to know, can I get a toy this weekend?” “Where are we going shopping?” And so, he had conditioned in his brain, “My fault.” “Oh, when daddy's not working, we go shopping, I get things.” 

That was really the catalyst of like, this isn't an alignment, and we had to go to the point of literally letting our life go to get back into alignment, and re-calibrate. And, it wasn't easy at first. But, it required us to be willing to let go of everything that we had at that point, in order to get back on track. 

Jo (Host)

And, that's something that's so hard to do, isn't it? Hence the Ho'oponopono, and letting go. I reckon that's people who come into my world, and I think I speak for myself, and I'm sure you too, are striving and achieving is not a problem. Slowing down, and letting go, is the hardest thing. Allowing things to come to you. You know, being magnetic, letting go of things that don't serve you. That is way harder, then let's do some more work. 

Brooke (Guest)

Especially, as an overachieving human being in today's world, we think of, you know, we were growing up. We were told you have to control everything. And, it's like, you need to use the right words, you need to have the right manners, you need to go to the right school, and get the right grades right. 

You need to go to the right uni. You need to pass an exam, with a hangover. You know you need to be able to graduate. You need to go to the right uni. You need to pass an exam with a hangover. You know you need to be able to graduate. You need to attract the right person, and get married. And you gotta keep your shit together through all of it. 

And it's like, this is where the perfection is conditioned, and it's woven in, and the need for control is really a fear of not being perfect. And there's this, “Uh, yeah, the challenge is letting go of the steering wheel.” You know, it's like, “Okay, I've set things in motion, or I've raised my kids, with the most incredible values.” “I don't have to be helicopter mom or helicopter dad.” You know, “That I can let them screw up, and learn, and actually build that muscle.” “Yeah, it can definitely be tough letting go.” 

Jo (Host)

Yeah, absolutely. One of the many things that has been done in this gown is letting go. And I guess to wrap us up, because I know you've got another podcast. I feel like the mistress, like “Woman Number Eight” on your list today.

Brooke (Guest)

You're number one. 

Jo (Host)

I'm sure he says that to all these girls wearing purple robes. So, what does the future hold for Brooke? What are you looking forward to most in the next 12 months? 

Brooke (Guest)

Oh, in the next 12 months, travel, travel, seeing new people, new places, new things. You know, this last year and a half we've been head down, building the business, and creating our world in that space. So, we've got some interesting trips on the horizon here, in the next year. So very, very excited to see where the world takes us. But, yeah, I'm excited for some new adventures on the horizon. 

Jo (Host)

Any of them down-under, to our part of the world? 

Brooke (Guest)

It's funny. So recently, I just had a few interesting connections there. So, a few people from down under, are actually coming up here. Um, we might have the Philippines on the horizon, maybe. 

Jo (Host)

Good, not too far, 

Brooke (Guest)

Not terribly far, yeah. It's in the neck  of the woods where you guys are at. 

Jo (Host)

Yeah, amazing. Well, Brooke, thank you so much for your time. If anybody wants to find out more about you, what's your website? Or, we’ll obviously put it in the show notes, but what's the best way for them to find out more? 

Brooke (Guest)

Empirepartners.io. So, empirepartners.io, yeah, if anybody's looking to monetise their message, or if anyone wants to get in the coaching space, and they want to figure out, how the hell do they build their business? That's really our orbit, and our world. So yeah, that's where we're at, I love it. 

Jo (Host)

Well, thank you so much for your time, Brooke! He's an absolute legend, a world of wisdom, and I couldn't think of a better room wall buddy, gallon buddy and hot tub buddy to spend some time with. 

Brooke (Guest)

We didn't close those loops.

Jo (Host)

Let's leave it a mystery, let's leave it a mystery. Let's say, both happily married. But you know, sometimes you want to add a little bit of spice to life, for some time. 

Brooke (Guest)

Well, thank you for having me on, and thank you for bringing the purple robe. 

Jo (Host)

All right. Thanks, Brooke. Thanks for joining us today on the Balance and Beyond podcast.

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